How Do you stop 2 Rax as Toss?

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United States August 02 2011 22:17Posts: 91
I've Lost 4 times in a row to 2 rax and im getting pretty mad!! Idk what the hell im supposed to do... Ive 4 gated, 2 gate robo, 3 gate robo, 3 gate expo and nothing has worked so far and if I beat initial push they are so far ahead in economy I have alrede lost... Help me plz if you can.
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Australia Rostered Member for Proxiteam August 02 2011 22:47Posts: 427
What kind of 2rax is it? the 2 rax with reactor before tech lab or vise versa? Or is it 2 rax no gas? Tell me this information and I can help you.
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United States Rostered Member for Proxiteam August 02 2011 23:24Posts: 619
Also you should upload replays so people can better assist you. :).
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Australia Rostered Member for Proxiteam August 03 2011 00:53Posts: 376
Wtf. 4gate, 3gate robo, 3gate expo or anything like that is not the solution to beating a 2rax. It's all relative to the moment you scout it, since 2rax will be a functioning build before 4gate or 3gate. It's pretty much like responding to a proxy 2gate (I don't mean you defend exactly as you would defend a proxy 2gate, I mean you have to adapt your opening as soon as you know your original opening isn't going to hold their opening).
It doesn't matter what kind of 2rax it is, just as long as you know it's coming. I assume you know what to look for now, since you lost 4 games to it ^_^
Anyway, once you see it coming throw down another gate to pump at least 3 zealots and then after ur cybo is done all you need is stalkers (believe it or not stalkers beat an un-stimmed marauder in a 1v1) from there on after. When you have enough leftover minerals throw down a 3rd gate ASAP. Pretty much all you have to do is keep them the fuck away from your ramp. Don't be scared to leave your zealots below your ramp, coz you're going to lose if you don't anyway. You just wanna pick off the SCVs, and then you can go back up your ramp.
That's the simple way anyway, if you give us some replays we can look into this further buddy.
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Canada August 03 2011 16:32Posts: 93

ProHan wrote:

Wtf. 4gate, 3gate robo, 3gate expo or anything like that is not the solution to beating a 2rax. It's all relative to the moment you scout it, since 2rax will be a functioning build before 4gate or 3gate. It's pretty much like responding to a proxy 2gate (I don't mean you defend exactly as you would defend a proxy 2gate, I mean you have to adapt your opening as soon as you know your original opening isn't going to hold their opening).
It doesn't matter what kind of 2rax it is, just as long as you know it's coming. I assume you know what to look for now, since you lost 4 games to it ^_^
Anyway, once you see it coming throw down another gate to pump at least 3 zealots and then after ur cybo is done all you need is stalkers (believe it or not stalkers beat an un-stimmed marauder in a 1v1) from there on after. When you have enough leftover minerals throw down a 3rd gate ASAP. Pretty much all you have to do is keep them the fuck away from your ramp. Don't be scared to leave your zealots below your ramp, coz you're going to lose if you don't anyway. You just wanna pick off the SCVs, and then you can go back up your ramp.
That's the simple way anyway, if you give us some replays we can look into this further buddy.

Didn't read that but Im guessing it's on how good toss is. Myabe I shud switch.
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Australia Rostered Member for Proxiteam August 03 2011 20:15Posts: 376

GasSS wrote:

ProHan wrote:

Wtf. 4gate, 3gate robo, 3gate expo or anything like that is not the solution to beating a 2rax. It's all relative to the moment you scout it, since 2rax will be a functioning build before 4gate or 3gate. It's pretty much like responding to a proxy 2gate (I don't mean you defend exactly as you would defend a proxy 2gate, I mean you have to adapt your opening as soon as you know your original opening isn't going to hold their opening).
It doesn't matter what kind of 2rax it is, just as long as you know it's coming. I assume you know what to look for now, since you lost 4 games to it ^_^
Anyway, once you see it coming throw down another gate to pump at least 3 zealots and then after ur cybo is done all you need is stalkers (believe it or not stalkers beat an un-stimmed marauder in a 1v1) from there on after. When you have enough leftover minerals throw down a 3rd gate ASAP. Pretty much all you have to do is keep them the fuck away from your ramp. Don't be scared to leave your zealots below your ramp, coz you're going to lose if you don't anyway. You just wanna pick off the SCVs, and then you can go back up your ramp.
That's the simple way anyway, if you give us some replays we can look into this further buddy.

Didn't read that but Im guessing it's on how good toss is. Myabe I shud switch.

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United States August 04 2011 15:44Posts: 91
Lol word like all you ever do is quote people and add some retarded crap that has nothing to do with the topic! And I'll get those replays up I didn't have internet last night I found out one was a 3 rax other was just pure stupidity on my part.
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Australia Rostered Member for Proxiteam August 07 2011 21:07Posts: 274

GasSS wrote:

ProHan wrote:

Wtf. 4gate, 3gate robo, 3gate expo or anything like that is not the solution to beating a 2rax. It's all relative to the moment you scout it, since 2rax will be a functioning build before 4gate or 3gate. It's pretty much like responding to a proxy 2gate (I don't mean you defend exactly as you would defend a proxy 2gate, I mean you have to adapt your opening as soon as you know your original opening isn't going to hold their opening).
It doesn't matter what kind of 2rax it is, just as long as you know it's coming. I assume you know what to look for now, since you lost 4 games to it ^_^
Anyway, once you see it coming throw down another gate to pump at least 3 zealots and then after ur cybo is done all you need is stalkers (believe it or not stalkers beat an un-stimmed marauder in a 1v1) from there on after. When you have enough leftover minerals throw down a 3rd gate ASAP. Pretty much all you have to do is keep them the fuck away from your ramp. Don't be scared to leave your zealots below your ramp, coz you're going to lose if you don't anyway. You just wanna pick off the SCVs, and then you can go back up your ramp.
That's the simple way anyway, if you give us some replays we can look into this further buddy.

Didn't read that but Im guessing it's on how good toss is. Myabe I shud switch.

GTFO.

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